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	<title>Comments on: Voxiversary on the Horizon</title>
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	<description>Andrew weighs in on the ways in which the web and the world are changing</description>
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		<title>By: Vox Stops: Six Apart? &#171; Changing Way</title>
		<link>http://changingway.org/2007/07/18/voxiversary-on-the-horizon/#comment-8577</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vox Stops: Six Apart? &#171; Changing Way]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Sep 2010 15:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] lived up to 6A&#8217;s hopes for it to be &#8220;home, home, on the web&#8221; for a great many. I said so around Vox&#8217;s first anniversary. Anil Dash, who was 6A&#8217;s chief evangelist at the time, left a Vox-defending comment. At the [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] lived up to 6A&#8217;s hopes for it to be &#8220;home, home, on the web&#8221; for a great many. I said so around Vox&#8217;s first anniversary. Anil Dash, who was 6A&#8217;s chief evangelist at the time, left a Vox-defending comment. At the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://changingway.org/2007/07/18/voxiversary-on-the-horizon/#comment-936</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 19:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anil,
Thanks for your comments.
- LJ is certainly an interesting case. Someone should write it up!
- The &quot;learning and growth&quot; perspective is the most interesting on most firms and products, and I didn&#039;t dig deep enough into Vox to give that perspective the salience it deserves.
- Alexa data are indeed suspect. But what data should we use instead? And are WordPress and Facebook users less inclined to use the &quot;obscure browser toolbar&quot; in question than LJ users?
One of the reasons I made the Voxiversary post this early is to bring such questions to the surface so that we* have time to investigate them before the day itself in October.
* We = ??
Thanks again, Andrew]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anil,<br />
Thanks for your comments.<br />
- LJ is certainly an interesting case. Someone should write it up!<br />
- The &#8220;learning and growth&#8221; perspective is the most interesting on most firms and products, and I didn&#8217;t dig deep enough into Vox to give that perspective the salience it deserves.<br />
- Alexa data are indeed suspect. But what data should we use instead? And are WordPress and Facebook users less inclined to use the &#8220;obscure browser toolbar&#8221; in question than LJ users?<br />
One of the reasons I made the Voxiversary post this early is to bring such questions to the surface so that we* have time to investigate them before the day itself in October.<br />
* We = ??<br />
Thanks again, Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
		<link>http://changingway.org/2007/07/18/voxiversary-on-the-horizon/#comment-934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:27:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I figured it goes without saying, but people are still using Alexa&#039;s data? Really? I wouldn&#039;t suppose Vox&#039;s audience installs obscure browser toolbars, at any rate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I figured it goes without saying, but people are still using Alexa&#8217;s data? Really? I wouldn&#8217;t suppose Vox&#8217;s audience installs obscure browser toolbars, at any rate.</p>
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		<title>By: Anil</title>
		<link>http://changingway.org/2007/07/18/voxiversary-on-the-horizon/#comment-933</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 16:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think all these services do such different things it&#039;s hard to compare them. And it doesn&#039;t really measure how much people care about the services they use -- which seems like a more valuable metric. Or else MySpace is full of meaningful connections, and I&#039;m nuts.

I think we&#039;re happy iterating on Vox (there are constantly new features and things going out) and to me it feels a lot like Flickr in the early days, where we can spend the time to try new things out and see how the community responds. I&#039;m sure if you look at Flickr&#039;s line in 2004 when it was about the same age, there were people wringing their hands over that as well.

I think Facebook, for example, has been very gracious with crediting that a lot of the open source tech they&#039;ve used (and made vast improvements to!) came from the LiveJournal team, which also really helped shape Vox&#039;s technology. So from the standpoint of helping grow the medium, and getting people connecting online, I think we&#039;re still making an outsized contribution, and that&#039;s a more meaningful measure for me, personally -- we&#039;re thriving, but helping other companies and communities grow, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think all these services do such different things it&#8217;s hard to compare them. And it doesn&#8217;t really measure how much people care about the services they use &#8212; which seems like a more valuable metric. Or else MySpace is full of meaningful connections, and I&#8217;m nuts.</p>
<p>I think we&#8217;re happy iterating on Vox (there are constantly new features and things going out) and to me it feels a lot like Flickr in the early days, where we can spend the time to try new things out and see how the community responds. I&#8217;m sure if you look at Flickr&#8217;s line in 2004 when it was about the same age, there were people wringing their hands over that as well.</p>
<p>I think Facebook, for example, has been very gracious with crediting that a lot of the open source tech they&#8217;ve used (and made vast improvements to!) came from the LiveJournal team, which also really helped shape Vox&#8217;s technology. So from the standpoint of helping grow the medium, and getting people connecting online, I think we&#8217;re still making an outsized contribution, and that&#8217;s a more meaningful measure for me, personally &#8212; we&#8217;re thriving, but helping other companies and communities grow, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://changingway.org/2007/07/18/voxiversary-on-the-horizon/#comment-923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 08:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WordPress.com went public the beginning of 2006, and anyone around at the time can attest it wasn&#039;t mature. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WordPress.com went public the beginning of 2006, and anyone around at the time can attest it wasn&#8217;t mature. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://changingway.org/2007/07/18/voxiversary-on-the-horizon/#comment-916</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tallac,
Thanks for your comment and for your kind words about this blog. I see your point about Vox being a young product. But, unlike Facebook and WordPress, Vox is a young product from an established firm that spent a lot of $ on it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tallac,<br />
Thanks for your comment and for your kind words about this blog. I see your point about Vox being a young product. But, unlike Facebook and WordPress, Vox is a young product from an established firm that spent a lot of $ on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tallac</title>
		<link>http://changingway.org/2007/07/18/voxiversary-on-the-horizon/#comment-915</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tallac]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew,

I am not too sure that this is an apples to oranges comparison. You are comparing two mature products and one product that officially launched less than a year ago. Go back a take a look at the Alexa graphs for Facebook and Wordpress during their early years and I think that you will see a trend similar to what you are seeing now for Vox.

I think that substituting TypePad for Vox would have made your argument more viable.

That said, I like your blog and appreciate the insight.

Regards,

Tallac]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>I am not too sure that this is an apples to oranges comparison. You are comparing two mature products and one product that officially launched less than a year ago. Go back a take a look at the Alexa graphs for Facebook and WordPress during their early years and I think that you will see a trend similar to what you are seeing now for Vox.</p>
<p>I think that substituting TypePad for Vox would have made your argument more viable.</p>
<p>That said, I like your blog and appreciate the insight.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Tallac</p>
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